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She’s Hillary Clinton

31 Aug

… and Sarah Palin is not.

It’s true Hillary Clinton put eighteen million cracks in the glass ceiling – but she didn’t do it by showing up one day and pretending that life in Alaska was pretty much akin to living life in a war zone. She paid for those cracks by being called every name in the book, dealing with outright hostility, not only from her opponents but from fellow Democrats and people she thought were her friends, by enduring years of public humiliation and vilification, facing her toughest opponents one on one and inspiring respect in them, by facing down the hate of almost every media personality out there, one on one if necessary, and by becoming the butt of every late night zinger.

Hillary Clinton didn’t put those cracks in the ceiling because she comes equipped with an uterus; she did it because she’s Hillary freakin’ Clinton. If Sarah Palin or any other Republican wants to squeeze into the space she carved out for herself after all these years, then they better be prepared for a lot worse than the innuendo and speculation that’s already begun to emerge:

Sarah Palin was not pregnant with child.

Her sixteen year-old daughter was.

Checking with the Anchorage High School that Bristol Palin attended, reporters were given word that her family had taken Bristol out of school due to contracting infectious mononucleosis. The amount of time Bristol was absent shifts from five to eight months.

Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months, but an eight month infection is a freak oddity. Yet it remains a common excuse given by girls in private & Catholic schools around the nation when pregnancy comes into play.

Not to be left behind, an anonymous tipster (unless Little R. Hen is their legal name, in which case I apologize) has already written in to Wonkette saying Palin’s husband has a “John Edwards problem“.

Meanwhile, the rightwing, I understand, is shocked and upset that the party of women-lovers a.k.a. the Democrats should turn vicious so quick on this beauteous mother of many. How is this possible? they ask. Is it not hypocritical? they ask.

I suggest they go back and study Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the reactions it evoked a little more closely for the answers they seek. And if that doesn’t satisfy them, please go back and study the years of the Clinton White House.

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19 Comments

Posted by on August 31, 2008 in Newsmakers, Politics, Video

 

19 responses to “She’s Hillary Clinton

  1. jim

    August 31, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    spoken like a true lost liberal!

     
  2. Overated Outcast

    August 31, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    I don’t think even the PUMA’s will fall for this.

    Seriously, what if he dies in office this thing from alaska is going to be the leader of the free world?

    I thought one couldn’t do worse than George Bush. But thank you Joey McFart, you just went out and did that. She makes Dennis Kuchinich look good. She makes Fred Thomson less boring. Hell, she almost makes Nancy Pelosi’s face move.

    Btw, didja see the Clinton’s speeches at the convention??

     
  3. Pitu

    August 31, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Well, clearly, a woman who supports Roe Vs Wade can be easily replaced by a woman who is anti-abortion even in cases involving rape or incest. Also, here’s a nice, heart-warming photo- where Ms Palin shows off her ‘skill’ at shooting a defenceless animal. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palin31-2008aug31,0,3379120.story?page=1 Way to go, lady.

    I swear, any respect I had for McCain has just vanished after this effing Palin choice. Excuse me while I go puke.

     
  4. Broom

    September 1, 2008 at 1:35 am

    It’s also an insult to womankind to think that just cos Palin’s a woman, she will get the Hillary votes.

    McCain is an idiot.

     
  5. Sandy Keyes

    September 1, 2008 at 11:09 am

    As we all know and may not approve, Mc and Hill are great friends, if anyone knows her accomplishments and how to work with her, he does; From what I heard behind the scenes, he was pissed at how she was treated from the second debate on.

    Think about this, you think he didn’t talk to Hill about it (hello media, I dare you to ask), you know he would get more votes with Romney? If it were all about him thinking we were stupid, he would have put Collins, Snowe or Hutchinson (cause she’s older) who would give him pro-choice wiggle. Nope.

    She puts men in their place and doesn’t take sh*t… and can bust a cap if they get rough… works for me. Especially since she’s fought more of her side and said she put dems and independents with her in Alaska. If she can deal with those kids, she has the pre-requisite for dealing with those big kids on the hill.

    Go ahead, let the same men in the media who lied and slammed Hillary’s womanhood slam her too, as well as her scumbag so called democratic candidates… we’ll never see a woman in.

    I thought i’d never see the day we would slam another sister down for them. But whatever, stay back there, i’m looking forward to a two woman contest in 2012.
    I predict more women running after this, with less or no kids… a shoe in.

     
  6. memsaab

    September 1, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Forgive my language, but Sarah Palin is just the latest “Fuck You” the Republicans have given us. They seem to think (and sadly the last 8 years haven’t proven them wrong) that they can nominate a house plant and it’ll win.

    And Sandy Keyes, it’s not about slamming another “sister.” Sarah Palin is no sister of mine. I abhor her politics and her “morals”—I’d much rather spend time in the company of intelligent and compassionate men than with her. And despite all her kids, she does not have the experience to be President. Not that you need experience when you have the Republican machinery pulling your strings like a puppet.

     
  7. pitu

    September 1, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    ‘I’d much rather spend time in the company of intelligent and compassionate men than with her.’

    Amen.

     
  8. Broom

    September 1, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Slamming a sister? Isn’t that what she’s doing with her anti-abortion stance?

     
  9. Amrita

    September 1, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Jim – and proud of it! 🙂

    OO – lol@ this thing from Alaska. I don’t know how to react almost. It’s like “what were you THINKING?” how does he choose someone he just met ONCE before asking her to be his VP? I don’t understand what’s going on. And yes, I saw her speech and Bill’s too and they were both as amazing as everybody said. Woo hoo!

    Pitu & Broom – that’s what kills me! If they went with their other (alleged, because seriously this is like the worst decision ever) rationale and said this was a choice they made for the base, then I would be repulsed but I wouldn’t care so much. This is just insulting on so many levels!

    Sandy Keyes – I think it’s a far bigger slam on Hillary that she spent all her life building up a platform and being vilified for it, and then at the nth moment, a woman who believes the complete opposite of everything she’s worked to achieve, strolls by and tries to benefit from it. And I don’t know what your idea of a “good friend” is, but mine isn’t this. Besides, considering both Clintons told off McCain at the convention, you’re basically calling them both liars by saying they’d rather McCain.

    Memsaab – here’s a link that you might have missed. I second Pitu.

     
  10. Amey

    September 1, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Say what you will, Hillary was never a Beauty Queen 😉

    That said, perhaps the only reason so much is being said about VP candidate is McCain’s age. Otherwise, would anybody care?

     
  11. Chevalier

    September 2, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Well, as a fairly confirmed PUMA I thought (and still think) that barring some crazy revealations, this is a great, great pick by McCain.

    (A) Why do we assume he’s made this pick because Gov Palin is a woman? He’s not doing this for us, i.e. Democrats/Hillary supporters but to shore up his base. Plus why assume that Republicans are immune to excitement of seeing someone ‘like them’ – i.e. why assume all those suburban Republican women, soccer moms, wont identify more with a hockey mom and Governor of a state rather than with yet another old white man, aka Biden? I think McCain’s campaign just assumed, if the PUMAs and/or Clinton Democrats get pulled in, then well and good. See the scary-smart Anglachel’s thoughts on this:
    http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/08/basic-instinct.html

    (B) Isn’t it always the case that we all succeed by standing on the shoulders of giants? Some other women fought for me to have the right to go to college, some other Indians fought for me to have the right to be independent from the British Rule, etc. etc. To expect all women politicians to hold their breath until justice has been done by Hillary is a little extreme. Esp. because, given the current crop of ‘democrats’ who’re running and supporting the DNC and the Obama campaign, we have a long way to go before they all resolve their mommy issues.

    (C) Given the stomach-churning sexism and misogyny that we’ve seen in this election season, I’m now 100% sure we need more women in politics, and TONS more of them. Enough women around so that every drooling idiot on MSNBC/CNN, every Keith Olbermann & Chris Matthews has no choice but to acknowledge them. If it means women by fiat, by quota, so be it. I’m thrilled that all those frat boys who went around smashing beer bottles here in Atlanta, screaming ‘we beat the bitch’ on June 3rd now are shaking in jaw-dropped horror that despite all their attempts, this is no more a penis-only election. Ha!

    (D) It’s again an Obama campaign meme that’s spreading, of how Gov Palin is too inexperienced to be VP. She has a little MORE experience than Barack, and a little more than Tim Kaine, who was one of the three ‘finalists’ for Barack’s choice of VP. Alaska is the United States’ largest state, and is 1/6th in area of the country, with some of the highest per-capita incomes. She’s a woman who’s actually walked the walk, removing much entrenched Ted Stevens and the dismantling the rest of the corrupt bureaucracy in the Republican machine in her state. As opposed to the other side, where Joe Biden actually passed laws in favor of credit card companies, and he chaired the Anita Hill hearings where he allowed a level of public misogyny to flourish against Anita Hill that has not been seen since – well, until this year.

    (E) Let’s PLEASE not go on about McCain’s propensity to drop dead at short notice. As someone funny said, ‘Joe Biden has had two aneurysms. If he drops dead Obama will be President’. But on a serious note, Obama smokes, and god knows what his medical records say (he never released them, McCain released the last eight years’ worth of records). Melanoma, which McCain has contracted in the past, is a lot more detectable in early stages and treatable than lung cancer is. And anything can happen to any one at any time. In fact, the same people in the media who went bat-sh**-crazy about Hillary’s RFK remark in June are now positing McCain’s longevity – irony is officially dead.

    Sorry for the long, long comment!! I just had to weigh in here, feel free to delete if necessary.

     
  12. memsaab

    September 2, 2008 at 9:36 am

    I did see that yesterday, Amrita, and it depressed me so much I had to take a 5 hour nap.

    I may be moving to India sooner than I planned 🙂

     
  13. pitu

    September 2, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Amey: I don’t care how old she is. After all, Obama is young too. It’s just that, as a woman, I ABHOR women like her. With ‘sisters’ like her, who needs enemies? And the Repubs proved once again what they think of women. We’re the pretty, dainty, foolish sex that obviously shouldn’t tax our brains by (good lord) ‘thinking’.

     
  14. Chevalier

    September 2, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Well, as a fairly confirmed PUMA I thought (and still think) that barring some crazy revealations, this is a great, great pick by McCain.

    (A) Why do we assume he’s made this pick because Gov Palin is a woman? He’s not doing this for us, i.e. Democrats/Hillary supporters but to shore up his base. Plus why assume that Republicans are immune to excitement of seeing someone ‘like them’ – i.e. why assume all those suburban Republican women, soccer moms, wont identify more with a hockey mom and Governor of a state rather than with yet another old white man, aka Biden? I think McCain’s campaign just assumed, if the PUMAs and/or Clinton Democrats get pulled in, then well and good. See the scary-smart Anglachel’s thoughts on this:
    http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/08/basic-instinct.html

    (B) Isn’t it always the case that we all succeed by standing on the shoulders of giants? Some other women fought for me to have the right to go to college, some other Indians fought for me to have the right to be independent from the British Rule, etc. etc. To expect all women politicians to hold their breath until justice has been done by Hillary is a little extreme. Esp. because, given the current crop of ‘democrats’ who’re running and supporting the DNC and the Obama campaign, we have a long way to go before they all resolve their mommy issues.

     
  15. Amrita

    September 3, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Chevalier – Hey, I’m all for long comments! I hope you are too because this is LONG.

    First off, regarding your point (A) like I mentioned in my reply to Pitu and Broom, had Sarah Palin never mentioned Hillary Clinton in her speech (before she took it off her agenda for the convention because the crowd reaction at the RNC reminded her that it’s the Democrats and Independents who’re so crazy about Hillary’s achievements) or if John McCain hadn’t jumped into the fray immediately after the Dem Primaries to talk about his love for women and specifically mentioned how those Hillary supporters should support him because he had their interests at heart while completely glossing over the fact that he’s not only anti-choice but is also a strong opponent of legislation such as the one inspired by Lilly Ledbetter, not to mention many smaller instances from his personal life that makes me think he’s far less women-friendly than he would have the world believe, I would have had less trouble with the RNC’s “historic moment” and wondered too if the Hillary vote was just an added bonus.

    But the fact that he very clearly mentioned that he wanted the Hillary vote, the fact that he has traditionally attracted old school Republicans (as opposed to the evangelicals that Karl Rove specialized in) and centrists or Independents, the fact that Obama’s “history in the making” campaign was in the news all the time for its history making ways, and the fact that the Republican base was pretty dull about his prospects all point to the logical conclusion that Sarah Palin’s greatest strength lay in that she wasn’t just conservative but that she was a conservative woman. Otherwise Mitt Romney was ready, willingle and able AND he’s met Romney one hell of a lot more times than just once. And Sarah’s very first speech, made months after she called Hillary a “whiner”, reflected that.

    [I say the RNC’s historic moment because the truly historic moment took place 24 years ago when Geraldine Ferraro got on the VP ticket after participating in the primaries and winning one of them.]

    As for (B) I don’t think I or anyone else expects women politicians to take a back seat until Hillary becomes President. What I (and perhaps others) find objectionable is the appropriation of her name and hard work to serve AGAINST the causes that she has championed her whole life. I would still have thought Palin insane and her policies anti-woman but if she’d been openly presented as the sop to the base she really is, then I would have thought of her the way I think of Ron Paul: crazy and interesting but none of my business. As someone whose family leans very Republican, I know plenty of smart, pro-life, conservative women and I don’t think voting Republican automatically makes you evil – the fact that the McCain campaign had access to millions more like them, with considerably higher national profiles, and instead chose Sarah Palin who looks increasingly strange with every passing day (according to her own party folks in Alaska and the people in her town, mind you) is a slap on their face the way I see it, but that’s the party they chose to support and if they’re happy with her choice then that’s their deal.

    (C) Amen. 😀

    (D) That’s not really true. For one thing Palin ran Ted Stevens’ 527 and was just as involved in earmarks and the Bridge to Nowhere and the rest of it – she just wasn’t AS corrupt as the rest of the establishment in Alaska which is like crazy town when it comes to corruption. Try the Mudflats link I gave Memsaab above.

    As for her having more experience than Obama: technically, if you’re talking executive experience in terms of years, then you’re right. And others have pointed out that had Obama been a black woman instead of a black man then he would have been laughed out of town, community organizing, Harvard Law Review, lawyer, Congressman, Senator or no. But as right wing pundits (Andrew Sullivan has links to Ponnaru, Frum, Ambinder and more if you want to check out The Daily Dish) have pointed out in the wake of the Palin selection, Obama has proven over the past 18 months that he has what it takes by running a $100 million organization for the past 18 months on his own terms. In fact, he’s done it better than McCain who seems to be following the same pattern as he did in the primaries, starting off with a bang, sputtering to a stop in utter shambles in the middle after he allows his campaign managers to package him into something he’s clearly not, and then blowing up and coming back (although it remains to be seen if he’ll be able to do that last in the GE). It is also worth pointing out that back in the 90s, the Republicans were the ones who were so dismissive of Clinton’s executive credentials because he came from such a “small state” with a population of 2 milllion. And now here they gathering in support of a person who governs Alaska, population 680,000 or as someone pointed out, slightly more than the population of metropolitan Little Rock.

    As far as Biden goes, while I was very young when the Anita Hill hearings went on, I can’t imagine anybody from either party behaved well. In fact it was one of the seminal events of my evolution as a feminist, I remember poring over Time magazine to read about it and not really understanding much other than the fact that everybody sucked because she clearly had right on her side. But in defense of Biden, let me point out that he also drafted the Violence Against Women Act and is far less objectionable than either one of his opponents when it comes to matters concerning women or the LGBT community, for that matter even if he did vote in favor of the Defense of Marriage Act.

    (E) Yeah, I don’t know why his age is such a big deal. But if he wanted to make me care about his age and health, then he did a good job by choosing Palin. 😛

    PS: Thanks for the link to Anglachel, btw. I confess, I felt the way she did, but less reasoned out, until I found out more about Palin.

     
  16. pitu

    September 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    I propose another reason- he picked her coz he wants to bed her :-p Cindy ghar mein, Sarah office mein. I know I’m being spiteful 🙂

     
  17. Amrita

    September 3, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Memsaab – we’ll book the flight together 😀

    OO – thank you 🙂

    Amey – that’s certainly a factor. The thing is, like I was saying to Chevalier, he’s making it a factor by choosing Palin for even those of us who didn’t previously care.

    Pitu – you and all the true believers at DailyKos! 🙂

     
  18. BVN

    September 4, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Ha! the Repubs! abortion, oil drilling, tax breaks….all is fine…one thing I cant stand is their self righteousness…one jesus camp they are

    the grass root GOP and the Coulter crowd blows trumpets saying “proud to be politically incorrect”, I had this colleague who stuck up something like “why do i have to dial 1 for english”. But these same hypocrites have problems with Obama saying he doesnt know for sure how the world began.

    hypocrites! big time nasty ones at that!

    But tell you something from the definitely male side, Sarah aunty is no Hillary. Let me go watch her on TV 🙂

     
 
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